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 Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   18-06-10 18:53

Hi there. I am looking for some ideas really. My daughter is going through a mad about maths stage again. We do numbers in her 2nd language, we have done Fibonacci to death - and symmetry, we have read poems that are mathematicaly based. She knows her times tables. She wants to do somthing new - but I don't know how to help her!

Oh - she has done about measurement as she is a big cookery fan.

Anything new that you can think of that might tickle her fancy (!) Oh - she is 6 by the way. We've made graphs a lot - and she prefers practical maths.

Thanks in advance.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Linda 
Date:   18-06-10 19:07

Statistics, prediction (weather patterns), probability (cards, etc).

www.smartkiddies.co.nz

matheletics ?

asking at school

mathematics and science books at library to look for direction.

architecture?

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   18-06-10 19:31

Hi

She does mathletics. We have done weather patterns already. She has covered probablity to the level that she can.

Tell me more about statistics! Any ideas about how I can bring stuff into every day life?

We already check the weather forecast and look at the data on world weather in the Press. What else could be thrown in?

How are you by the way???

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: L 
Date:   18-06-10 20:40

Have you seen the book 'The Number Devil"? It may be beyond her in some ways yet, but its entertainingly written and readable, and lots of interesting maths. My kids have loved it and keep going back to it as they get older.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   18-06-10 21:09

OOOOH - sounds great! I will have to get a copy and read it first to see if it suitable!

Thanks!

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: andrea 
Date:   18-06-10 22:05

How about negative numbers? Addition, subtraction, multiplication & division of.

If she likes symmetry, she might like tesselations also.

Fractions?

Percentages?

If she's familiar with some styles of graphs, you could extend that - line graphs, bar graphs, histograms, pie charts, ...

Averages?

Random numbers?

Other number series? Inventing her own?

Extend Fibonacci numbers to the golden ratio?

Different polygons & polyhedra?

Geometry: different triangles & the internal angles.

Volumes?

Cross sectional shapes of different solids?

Hope that is not too many ideas (I have a maths degree so inclined to be a maths nut too :)

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   18-06-10 22:26

Again - thanks. She has been doing fractions for a while. They are so easy to fit into life! We did something about triangles - but it seemed a bit contrived.

She went crazy over Fibonacci when she was 5. She seems to 'get' negative numbers - as they have come up when looking at the latest overnight temperatures!

I will have to show her nets and how they might work for dice- other than a usual 6 sided die. That might appeal.

I have ordered a couple of books too - The adventures of Penrose the mathematical cat - has great reviews. And I have ordered a copy of the number devil - as it isn't available at the library.

Thanks.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Linda 
Date:   18-06-10 22:37

We're great thanks!

Statistics - using Statistics New Zealand data to graph things, website quite good. Books from library!


Also Mapping --using a topo map to draw a terrain cross-section based on elevations of contour lines for line route.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Sue 
Date:   18-06-10 22:40

How about something like the Sieve of Eratosthenes - finding prime numbers? And Pascal's triangle may be OK too.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Anon 
Date:   20-06-10 08:41

I don't know if this would be too easy / too hard but how about harder algebra? I know of a little boy lapping up simultaneous equations.

Have you asked for worksheets from some of the seniors at your daughter's school? Things like the Otago Problem Solving challenges might be interesting for her.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   20-06-10 09:43

Andrea - are you the Andrea involved in small poppies by any chance?

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: L 
Date:   20-06-10 10:14

You can buy books with back copies of the Otago Problem Solving competitions on-line - just google Otago problem Solving. My 9 year old loves these and they work the problems at the back of the book in case anyone gets stuck. These are good too because the problems on each sheet cover a range of difficulty and they suggest different approaches which encourages flexible thinking, looking for patterns and short cuts etc, rather than emphasis on straight arithmetic.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Gillian 
Date:   20-06-10 11:06

Have you tried the maths section of your local library? Our library has a series of books: Sideways arithmetic from Wayside School, by Louis Sachar, Dewey Number 793.74.
They are logic / algebra problems with a story written around them. They my be a little hard, but I really enjoyed doing them with my kids.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   20-06-10 11:08

Great ideas. I have been to my local libraries - and have exhausted their selection. I have ordered some books from amazon - but it will be weeks before they turn up and she wants them NOW!

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Anon 
Date:   20-06-10 11:44

We have a copy of "The Number Devil" which you can borrow if you like and we live in Chch. Feel free to contact me directly if you are interested

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   20-06-10 13:15

Many thanks Anon - but I have already ordered a copy. So she will have to wait - I'll certainly look at the Otago problem solving stuff in case she wants some. Mathletics has filled the maths gap this weekend.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: JanK 
Date:   20-06-10 13:35

Hi Nikki,

I am always keeping an eye out for maths stuff (for my reluctant math doers) and one that I have come across occassionally on blogs is - the life of fred maths.

http://www.stanleyschmidt.com/FredGauss/index2.html

We haven't bought any of the books, there may be some homeschoolers who can comment on how they are.

Jan

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Anna 
Date:   20-06-10 19:46

I heard about this great website on Radio NZ National: csunplugged.org/ (Computer Science Unplugged). It's computer science rather than maths, but really delves into the ideas and concepts behind computer science, and in my opinion, is quite 'mathsy'! Has cool exercises to do with binary numbers, algorithms, data compression, etc etc, all done without a computer. It's free and appealing to kids too. Might be fun to try with your daughter?

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: birgit 
Date:   20-06-10 20:33

Hi
The Number devil also has a CD with a game. Don't know where to get in NZ, but you may try amazon.com
My kids have enjoyed the games on the computer. (as well as Mathletics)

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Banchory 
Date:   22-06-10 08:53

I have a few maths topics, written for my Grandson, that may be suitable. At the moment I have 'Euclid and his Geometry', 'Pythagoras and Irrational Numbers', 'Mersenne and his Primes', 'Fibonacci and his Rabbits' and Napier and his Logarithms' They are written as a conversation between a grandfather/grandson and should be suitable for any bright child aged from about 8 upwards. The only problem is that, at this stage, I can send the main conversational text only. Illustrations have been done, but are not yet embedded in the text and and that rules 'Euclid' out altogether and degrades 'Fibonacci'. The others should still be useful though. Email me direct if you would like to try one. There is no charge.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: cath gilmour 
Date:   22-06-10 16:26

hello,
they all sound wonderful - we would be very appreciative if you could send us your grandfatherly conversations - especially as our daughter doesn't have any of her own, it would be great conversation to add.
I saw your other posting about also having some science resources you could e-mail - they would also be great. Thank you !
kind regards
Cath

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   22-06-10 18:09

Wow - I am so glad I started this thread. The ideas are wonderful. It is hard catching my daughter when she is really switched on to something. Sometimes I have the resources she needs in a cupboard - but more often than not, I have to order something specific - and then by the time it arrives it then sits in a cupboard until she is back on that topic again!

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Anon 
Date:   23-06-10 10:29

Banchory

Your grandson is very lucky to have such interest and involvement.

T

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Linda 
Date:   23-06-10 11:08

Hi Nikki,

Have you tried the Selwyn Libraries collection? There may be some different things on offer.
Also, the school may be able to get books, video, etc from the National Library. My son's school was doing that until another child lost one of the books and ruined the arrangement, Grrrr!
Teacher had explained situation re: HG reader exhausting local material and National Library was very helpful.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   09-07-10 17:27

The number devil - FABULOUS! Buy this book for your mad-about-maths kids. I like Penrose too - but the former title is amazing.

Mathletics + The Number devil = one very happy child on a wet day!

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   18-07-10 17:39

Update. Penrose is actually miss 6's favourite. So far she has been working out binary, more about 2D and 3D shapes - and angles contained within, symmetry and her latest thing - pi. *I* have learnt some really interesting stuff!

Well worth the money for anyone with interested children.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: heidi 
Date:   19-08-10 09:55

Hi,

How about music theory? Lots of maths in that.

Could she do some carpentry with you, and measure the angles? What builders need to know to fit different roof-lines together is quite amazing.

Do you have a local stream? There are many different methods to calculate streamflow.

Have fun

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Nikki 
Date:   19-08-10 13:46

Hi Heidi

She plays violin and has been reading music for a while now - so she is adept at that sort of thing. It is handy as it brings in Italian of course and she loves dancing to music. Not sure about the carpentry idea- she can be clumsy!

I treated her to a new protractor, set square and pair of compasses recently which are a huge hit. I so pleased I started this thread- everyone has such great ideas.

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 Re: Mad about maths
Author: Anon 
Date:   19-08-10 14:26

Hi Nikki

I know of a little girl who was musical and when eager for more composed her own music, writing different parts for the different instruments in an orchestra. I know nothing about music and perhaps this has nothing to do with maths but often maths and music are linked, aren't they? It could certainly present a different challenge.

Failing that, maybe your daughter could do my data-analyses for me, LOL...

Seriously, get her to work on statistics. If she's anything like the gifted people I've known, she wont take things at face value and will need "evidence". It's difficult evaluating the evidence for yourself unless you have a solid understanding of data analysis.

There's a lot I'm not keen on with the education system but I am pleased that our kids are starting to learn about statistics; so important and so often overlooked.

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